Dallas Willard and John Ortberg-Very Confused Men...

I tried reading an "important" book by Dallas Willard once; all I remember about it is that it was very hard to understand (and I never bothered to finish it). As I listened to this interview with John Ortberg I realized that he is very confused himself. These two confused "Evangelical experts" are schooled by video teacher Bezel333:

Dallas Willard is being asked tough questions from the audience at Menlo Park Presbyterian Church. I found his answers very unorthodox and wanted to comment on them.