"The Gilbert and Sullivan Mass" by Lutheran Satire
/Mr. Thompson and the local vicar are upset that none of the youngsters think church is cool. But don't worry. They've got a solution.
A Blog by Steven Kozar
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”
Mr. Thompson and the local vicar are upset that none of the youngsters think church is cool. But don't worry. They've got a solution.
This is SO GOOD!! I just listened to it twice! The White Horse Inn is always a great listen, but this particular show packs in an amazing amount of enlightening truth (and a little humor) in just 36 minutes:
"I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.
I tried reading an "important" book by Dallas Willard once; all I remember about it is that it was very hard to understand (and I never bothered to finish it). As I listened to this interview with John Ortberg I realized that he is very confused himself. These two confused "Evangelical experts" are schooled by video teacher Bezel333:
Dallas Willard is being asked tough questions from the audience at Menlo Park Presbyterian Church. I found his answers very unorthodox and wanted to comment on them.
This is a quote from the book "No Place for Truth" by David F. Wells:
"The sort of Christian faith that is conceived in the womb of the self is quite different from the historic Christian faith. It is a smaller thing, shrunken in its ability to understand the world and to stand up in it. The self is a canvas too narrow, too cramped, to contain the largeness of Christian truth. Where the self circumscribes the significance of Christian faith, good and evil are reduced to a sense of well-being or its absence, God's place in the world is reduced to the domain of private consciousness, his external acts of redemption are trimmed to fit the experience of personal salvation, his providence in the world diminishes to whatever is necessary to ensure one's having a good day, his Word becomes intuition, and conviction fades into evanescent opinion. Theology becomes therapy, and all the telltale symptoms of the therapeutic model of faith begin to surface. The biblical interest in righteousness is replaced by a search for happiness, holiness by wholeness, truth by feelings, ethics by feeling good about one's self. The world shrinks to the range of personal circumstances; the community of faith shrinks to a circle of personal friends. The past recedes. The Church recedes. The world recedes. All that remains is the self.
What remains is, in fact, a paltry thing. But what is being destroyed is not paltry and insignificant at all. Simply put, the psychologizing of faith is destroying the Christian mind. It is destroying Christian habits of thought because it is destroying the capacity to think about life in a Christian fashion. It is as if the topsoil were being washed away, leaving the land barren and incapable of being cultivated. It can no longer sustain the bountiful harvest of being able to discern between good and evil, to think about all of life in terms of God and his purposes, to construct a way of being that accords with his Word, and to contest the norms of cultural plausibility. All is lost.
And when people are no longer compelled by God's truth, they can be compelled by anything, the more so if it has the sheen of excitement or the lure of the novel or the illicit about it. The heretics of old, one suspects, would be sick with envy if they knew of the easy pickings that can now be had in the Church."
(This amazing book was written in 1993)
This is, perhaps, the most blatant and blasphemous thing I've ever heard from a false teacher. How bad does it have to get before people wake up?? Just watch the first five minutes-I dare you:
Charismatic silliness takes precedence over God's Word AGAIN.
The idiotic "preacher" (who can't preach) in this excruciatingly painful video is Kenneth Hagin.
Kenneth Hagin (aka: "Larry the Cable Guy") is the Father of the Word of Faith movement. He lived from 1917 to 2003. "Who cares about this old guy that isn't even alive anymore," you say? Well, if you like Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen, Bill Johnson, Mike Bickle, Benny Hinn, Rick Joyner, Rod Parsley, T. D. Jakes, Mark Chironna, Heidi Baker, Randy Clark, etc. etc. etc., you have to also like this man-because that's where they all got their new and better version of Christianity (they've all added their own spin to it, of course).
When Bill Johnson says "Did you know Jesus was the first person to be born again?" he is teaching a Hagin heresy. When Joel Osteen tells you to "speak prosperity into existence" he is teaching a Hagin heresy. When Kenneth Copeland says that "he's a little god, too" he is teaching a Hagin heresy. When T. D. Jakes tells you to "sow a seed of faith" ("give me your money") he is teaching a Hagin heresy (although Oral Roberts may have started that one first). When Joyce Meyer tells you that "you're already healed-you just need to claim it!" she is teaching a Hagin heresy. When Mike Bickle shares the latest extra-biblical "prophecy" about what God is doing now (as opposed to last year...) he is teaching a Hagin heresy.
Do you know where Hagin received his new and improved version of Christianity? He spoke directly to God so he could receive these new teachings (that's why you should never question him or anyone like him who also hears directly from God). Oh, and he also plagiarized many ideas directly from E. W. Kenyon. Kenyon (1867-1948) took pagan ideas from the same people that created Christian Science and tried to merge them with Christianity, to make it "better." This was thoroughly documented in the 1988 book: "A Different Gospel-A Historical and Biblical Analysis of the Modern Faith Movement" by D. R. McConnell. It's a great book that should have altered the course of modern evangelical Christianity. But it didn't. It was totally and utterly ignored.
Now we Christians are not supposed to mention any of this-we're supposed to just go along with any teacher who happens to mention the name of Jesus in the midst of false teachings.
Not me. Not ever.
-Steven Kozar
http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/TM13-9 Strange Fire, part of Grace to You's Truth Matters conference series, evaluates the doctrines, claims, and practices of the modern charismatic movement, and affirms the true Person and ministry of the Holy Spirit. The conference features pastor and Bible teacher John MacArthur, as well as teaching or presentations by: R.C.
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As I look back on my 35 or so years of being a Christian, I'm very thankful for the foundation that was laid in my teenage years. I read some really good books by C.S. Lewis, G.K. Chesterton, Josh McDowell, Phillip Yancey and Francis Schaeffer; and I was encouraged by several godly men to build my faith on the reality of God's Word-not just my feelings. Jesus was a real historical person who really said and really did the things the Bible describes. I don't believe one can hold the position that the Bible is "just a bunch of stories that people made up" without being intellectually lazy-or worse (but that is a gigantic topic for another day).
Today, I look around and see that the Bible describes the world we live in as it really is. The Bible describes man as constantly veering towards selfishness and it describes man as always wanting to rebel against God. We've got a million different ways to disobey our Creator and take control. The Bible does not portray man as basically good, and history bears this out with painful and horrendous emphasis (which is not to say that some people haven't done some very good things, some of the time). The Bible also describes man as all too willing to buy into Satan's original lie that we "surely will not die" and that if we disobey God we will "be like God." In other words, the Bible does not give us a fantasy land of unicorns and pixie dust, where "all of our dreams can come true"-no matter what false teachers (like Joel Olsteen, just to name one) would have us believe.
We should be glad that the messy, sinful world we live in is very much like the messy, sinful world that the Bible describes. Why? Because Christianity is about God redeeming mankind-not creating religious fantasies to cover up the often nightmarish existence that we all share. This nightmarish existence that we all share is most difficult to grapple with in America; this is the Land of Distraction and the Home of the Shallow. It seems we will go to any length in order to prolong our delusions.
Here's the greatest truth that we deny: We will all die.
I don't even know the names of my great grandparents, let alone have any pictures of them. Each of us, with our thousands of personal photographs, mementos, and belongings will also be forgotten within a generation or two (some of us will have our precious belongings liquidated while we're still drooling in a nursery home). Think about it: Completely Forgotten. I'm an artist, so there's a chance that my name will be remembered a little bit longer than most people, but still, I know that my earthly life will soon be over and forgotten.
What's truly shameful, in my way of thinking, is how this sobering reality should lead us to God, but even in many churches this reality is avoided. We should be asking ourselves: How and why did I get here? What will happen when I die? What is the meaning of my life? Instead of confronting us (lovingly confronting us) with these difficult and sobering questions, many pastors are telling us how to "reach our destiny" and "find the hidden keys to our purpose" and so on. They tell us that "we are meant for greatness" and that God has "planted a dream inside us" yet, all the while they never allow us to contemplate the reality of our impending fate-death itself.
The Christianity of the Bible confronts us with our sin, and reminds us of our death; it also confronts the sinful, deceptive and violent world we live in, and offers us redemption. Ephesians 1: 7-8 "In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that He lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding." -Steven Kozar
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