This is an episode of Fighting for the Faith from 2010 when Chris Rosebrough put together several segments into one program specifically addressing the takeover tactics coming from "church growth expert," Dan Southerland. He is a huge evangelical Purpose-Driven growth "guru" who says some truly scary and un-biblical things. This guy is a manipulative Bible-twister; and he sounds like a cross between a used-car salesman and a smooth-talking CEO who convinces his employees why it's good to export their jobs to Mexico. His most notorious remark is when he tells pastors that the they must "shoot the wolves. Kill 'em." Southerland is not talking about false teachers in the church! He's referring to members of the church who point out un-Biblical teachings coming from their pastors. If you've ever been shot down in church because you questioned the weird new teachings coming from your Purpose Driven pastor, you'll recognize the sneaky, slimy and cult-like tactics taught by this guy.